I have noticed since the moon landing denials, starting in 70s, that there is a 30-40% bottom, who will deny or believe anything. Its not always the same people as it depends upon subject. I cant see trump getting much lower than this range of stupid.
I’m wondering how Trump’s seemingly wishy-washy cease-fire negotiations timeline does or does not correlate with financial gains made by his family members in the Middle East? Low approval ratings are easier to swallow when your extended family is about to experience significant financial windfall.
Please let me clarify my earlier question. Bottom line is that the Trump approval/disapproval ratings have not triggered any sort of apparent organized effort to present a unified big picture response. That suggests to me that those persons disapproving him have various reasons and are, in effect, a coalition built only on disapproval of Trump. If so, then no organized response is to avoid splintering this "coalition" in the hope to win big in the mid-terms. Once the mid-terms are over, win or lose, will the coalition fall apart? There must be thoughtful people planning for post-mid terms. I am wondering if this plan has a historical precedent and if so where it might be headed?
Trump's approval ratings are irrelevant when it comes to midterms. People will still vote GOP as long as the Democratic Party rating remains lower than Trump's
That's highly unlikely to be the case. The low Dem ratings derive from the frustration of Dem voters that their party leaders have not been able to do more to stop Trump. Those voters HATE Trump with a passion -- they're frustrated with the Dems but where are they going to go? And they're not going to stay home either -- witness all the special election and Nov. 2025 Dem overperformance.
Also, Independent voters are very strongly opposed to Trump, much closer to Dems than to Reps in approval/disapproval. Trump is making ZERO effort to win them over.
Where is Trump making any effort? At tilting the table and pursuing the various overt and covert vectors to rigging the election. This may well succeed. But it won't have anything to do with the Dems' low approval -- which, again, is the result of the frustration of Dem base voters that the party has not been anti-Trump enough.
Dem voters are not relevant to the discussion. They will vote vote D even if they liked Trump. Similarly GOP voters will vote Republican even if they wouldn't vote for Trump again
Independent and non-Trump Republicans are the gettable voters in the midterms and 2028. There are estimates that roughly 2/3 of independents lean GOP or are closet GOP. This means that even if they hate Trump and his endorsed picks, they will still tend to vote GOP if the alternative isn't better (Platner, Telarico, etc)
We have seen this empirically in 2016 and 2024. Nearly 30% of Biden voters also voted for Trump in 2016 and these voters switched back to Trump in 2024 over Harris
Newsom is the new Harris
Talking about Trump approval ratings are feel-good opiates for liberals and anti-Trumpers. But they are largely irrelevant if the Dem Party can't develop a party platform that resonates
Trump is a lame duck, so the real question is how the tar baby they embraced will affect the GOP. Republicans have degraded themselves to accord with the weird coalition of white supremacists and Christian nationalists and jingoists and anti-science conspiracists who are not naturally aligned and don't typically participate meaningfully in politics. Once their hero is off the stage, and those factions disperse, how will republicans explain themselves? Trump has some sort of unique alchemy whereby he can play "the ugliest American" in a way that appeals regrettably to our nation's worst instincts. But once that black magic is gone, the stain of close association will live on.
By what perspective other than one that is an anti-Trump screed do you exclude The Idioit Bush’s late ’08 27% approval ratings? Because of the crash? Then say so. Practically speaking his approval ratings had been sinking because of his foolish escapades in the Middle East long before the crash. Your lib leanings reek throughout your regular analasis, why hide it now?
Trump’s ability to control the media is well understood. I wonder why there is no organized response like an “opposition leader” or “shadow cabinet”? Or, something organized than provides an organized alternative position?
It's because he floods the zone with a constant stream of inane social media. No one has the patience to look at it all, much less respond to it. And much of it is so "low IQ" as he would call it, that responding to is just climbing down into a gutter.
I have noticed since the moon landing denials, starting in 70s, that there is a 30-40% bottom, who will deny or believe anything. Its not always the same people as it depends upon subject. I cant see trump getting much lower than this range of stupid.
Never say never!
This war was put together on a cocktail napkin in a strip club, by men who think their 'package' is a lot bigger than it is....
I’m wondering how Trump’s seemingly wishy-washy cease-fire negotiations timeline does or does not correlate with financial gains made by his family members in the Middle East? Low approval ratings are easier to swallow when your extended family is about to experience significant financial windfall.
Please let me clarify my earlier question. Bottom line is that the Trump approval/disapproval ratings have not triggered any sort of apparent organized effort to present a unified big picture response. That suggests to me that those persons disapproving him have various reasons and are, in effect, a coalition built only on disapproval of Trump. If so, then no organized response is to avoid splintering this "coalition" in the hope to win big in the mid-terms. Once the mid-terms are over, win or lose, will the coalition fall apart? There must be thoughtful people planning for post-mid terms. I am wondering if this plan has a historical precedent and if so where it might be headed?
Trump's approval ratings are irrelevant when it comes to midterms. People will still vote GOP as long as the Democratic Party rating remains lower than Trump's
That's highly unlikely to be the case. The low Dem ratings derive from the frustration of Dem voters that their party leaders have not been able to do more to stop Trump. Those voters HATE Trump with a passion -- they're frustrated with the Dems but where are they going to go? And they're not going to stay home either -- witness all the special election and Nov. 2025 Dem overperformance.
Also, Independent voters are very strongly opposed to Trump, much closer to Dems than to Reps in approval/disapproval. Trump is making ZERO effort to win them over.
Where is Trump making any effort? At tilting the table and pursuing the various overt and covert vectors to rigging the election. This may well succeed. But it won't have anything to do with the Dems' low approval -- which, again, is the result of the frustration of Dem base voters that the party has not been anti-Trump enough.
Dem voters are not relevant to the discussion. They will vote vote D even if they liked Trump. Similarly GOP voters will vote Republican even if they wouldn't vote for Trump again
Independent and non-Trump Republicans are the gettable voters in the midterms and 2028. There are estimates that roughly 2/3 of independents lean GOP or are closet GOP. This means that even if they hate Trump and his endorsed picks, they will still tend to vote GOP if the alternative isn't better (Platner, Telarico, etc)
We have seen this empirically in 2016 and 2024. Nearly 30% of Biden voters also voted for Trump in 2016 and these voters switched back to Trump in 2024 over Harris
Newsom is the new Harris
Talking about Trump approval ratings are feel-good opiates for liberals and anti-Trumpers. But they are largely irrelevant if the Dem Party can't develop a party platform that resonates
Practically every off-year and special election we've had in the last 16 months solidly refute that thesis.
Off year and special elections are not the midterms and presidential elections. Historical evidence shows this
Trump is a lame duck, so the real question is how the tar baby they embraced will affect the GOP. Republicans have degraded themselves to accord with the weird coalition of white supremacists and Christian nationalists and jingoists and anti-science conspiracists who are not naturally aligned and don't typically participate meaningfully in politics. Once their hero is off the stage, and those factions disperse, how will republicans explain themselves? Trump has some sort of unique alchemy whereby he can play "the ugliest American" in a way that appeals regrettably to our nation's worst instincts. But once that black magic is gone, the stain of close association will live on.
By what perspective other than one that is an anti-Trump screed do you exclude The Idioit Bush’s late ’08 27% approval ratings? Because of the crash? Then say so. Practically speaking his approval ratings had been sinking because of his foolish escapades in the Middle East long before the crash. Your lib leanings reek throughout your regular analasis, why hide it now?
Slop.
Let the man work. TAW!
Trump’s ability to control the media is well understood. I wonder why there is no organized response like an “opposition leader” or “shadow cabinet”? Or, something organized than provides an organized alternative position?
It's because he floods the zone with a constant stream of inane social media. No one has the patience to look at it all, much less respond to it. And much of it is so "low IQ" as he would call it, that responding to is just climbing down into a gutter.
Historically, has the strategy of allowing an unpopular president to just sink himself worked?
I don't believe there is any seriously approximate historical precedent for this level of circus-depravity in politics in America.
As always, failing to plan is a plan to fail!
I hope some (many) are planning on how to fix this mess once Trump is out of office.