Good piece. I greatly appreciate the relatively balanced, very well-informed, and refreshingly facts-based info that Gabe provides. His views do not always align with mine, but there is so much good info in his reporting that I don't see elsewhere that I'm very willing to skip over the occasional embedded opinion I don't share. I don't read just to hear myself anyway. Thanks, Gabe.
Good analysis of the current situation and policy matters. But the Democrats' REAL job at this point is to force the Republicans to take unpopular-with-voters stances, and to do so as close to the election as possible. Ruining Thanksgiving lost out to voting repeatedly against health insurance subsidies, which one or a couple more shutdowns next year could force.
A well crafted and informative piece that was fun to read.
A couple of points:
You stated
"And we also know that Trump is more politically savvy (and less ideologically stringent) than Thune or Johnson: just as he has moderated his party’s position on abortion and Medicare and Social Security cuts out of fear of being punished by voters, it wasn’t insane to think that Trump might see the very lopsided polling in favor of Obamacare subsides and tell Republicans to screw their principles and strike a deal.”
Actually it is/was quite insane. You clearly mis-read Trump, as is the wont of Dem supporting media, whether Legacy or otherwise, and their irritated AntiTrump supporters. Trump hates Obama , if from no other perspective than his ego. Of course ObamaCare is a mild disaster having failed to deliver on affordability and promises to provide insurance for the majority of uninsured Americans. ( The numbers initially went from 30 plus million uninsured to mid-teens only to creep above 27 million under Biden. The increase in the cost of medical insurance and care are primarily the result of a level of middle-men created and financed by the financialization crowd which increase costs as the middle men distributors dip their beak repeatedly). Moreover once air travel and feeding the poor became stark realities Trump was required to dig in and win.
AS to Mass Rep(D) Seth Moulton , he’s down 50 points to Markey, who even a Lesser Kennedy could not defeat. He’s no measure of what will happen, only of political expediency and desperation. But your point is well taken-How will the generational divide in the Dem party play out? An accomodation between the Left/Youth wing and the Elders or an internal bloodbath that negatively impacts the races in ’26 and ’28. Based on 50 years of Dem party history it’s reasonable (not insane?) to expect the latter.
Finally, as to January’s political landscape. Please remember that Trump is in charge and is the biggest wild card factor. Next to Ukraine which, thanks to the neocon con men and women , is highly likely to be an even greater conflagration as the EU and Zelensky press for evermore ammo and guns and death to avoid a Russian invasion of Europe( which makes no sense-the West wants Russia’s natural resources, the Russians just want a buffer between them and the neocon West).
This fully predictable Democratic rout on election day was achieved on their home court. If they had lost ANY of the races it would have been astonishing,
But where’s the fun if you can’t bouy your flagging and fragmented party faithful with a bit of (insane?) optimism ?
It started with unwarranted criticism of HCR and now has moved into very perceptible approval for the "political mastermind that is Trump". We all got to watch you grow up and take the bait. It's more than disappointing.
Which of the points I made above do you think is incorrect? Did I get historical analysis of one of the past shutdowns wrong? Or did I incorrectly analyze this one? Would be happy to hear any specific point of disagreement you have!
Whelp, guess that was one quote mark too many. The sentiment throughout the piece exists but here's some directness for you. "And we also know that Trump is more politically savvy (and less ideologically stringent) than Thune or Johnson:" Regardless, the adoration oozes.
I suppose those of us who refuse to participate in serious discussion of the man as anything more than a con man who fell into a particular chair in the WH will also sit by idly when political pundits gather round to discuss how genius it was he wrangled his way into a third term. "Who would have thought it possible? Stroke of genius getting around the Constitution! Breaking ground for a new Republic!"
Fair enough, if you disagree with the assertions that Trump is more politically savvy and ideologically flexible than Mike Johnson and John Thune, we can agree to disagree on that. I believe there is ample evidence of Donald Trump changing his political positions and shirking away from conservative orthodoxy in order to win votes, whereas there is less evidence that Johnson or Thune have done either. I don’t believe it’s adoration to say that (if anything, many might say it’s a criticism to say someone flip-flops in search of votes -- though to be clear, I didn’t mean it as either: just my reading of the facts at hand). But I respect if you disagree and believe there is more evidence of Johnson and Thune changing their stances to win over swing voters.
In this case, the quote marks are meant to signify disagreement with the statement. That said, Gabe is right and the Schumer haters are wrong and should be made to have his job just to see how wrong they are when they find out they can't get swing state Democratic Senators to do the bidding of the lefties (because the lefties who hate normal Democrats are the ones pushing this; the actual base Democrats weren't).
Good piece. I greatly appreciate the relatively balanced, very well-informed, and refreshingly facts-based info that Gabe provides. His views do not always align with mine, but there is so much good info in his reporting that I don't see elsewhere that I'm very willing to skip over the occasional embedded opinion I don't share. I don't read just to hear myself anyway. Thanks, Gabe.
Thank you, Jessie!
Good analysis, thanks for the historical context.
Great analysis, thanks!
phenomenal piece!
Good analysis of the current situation and policy matters. But the Democrats' REAL job at this point is to force the Republicans to take unpopular-with-voters stances, and to do so as close to the election as possible. Ruining Thanksgiving lost out to voting repeatedly against health insurance subsidies, which one or a couple more shutdowns next year could force.
A well crafted and informative piece that was fun to read.
A couple of points:
You stated
"And we also know that Trump is more politically savvy (and less ideologically stringent) than Thune or Johnson: just as he has moderated his party’s position on abortion and Medicare and Social Security cuts out of fear of being punished by voters, it wasn’t insane to think that Trump might see the very lopsided polling in favor of Obamacare subsides and tell Republicans to screw their principles and strike a deal.”
Actually it is/was quite insane. You clearly mis-read Trump, as is the wont of Dem supporting media, whether Legacy or otherwise, and their irritated AntiTrump supporters. Trump hates Obama , if from no other perspective than his ego. Of course ObamaCare is a mild disaster having failed to deliver on affordability and promises to provide insurance for the majority of uninsured Americans. ( The numbers initially went from 30 plus million uninsured to mid-teens only to creep above 27 million under Biden. The increase in the cost of medical insurance and care are primarily the result of a level of middle-men created and financed by the financialization crowd which increase costs as the middle men distributors dip their beak repeatedly). Moreover once air travel and feeding the poor became stark realities Trump was required to dig in and win.
AS to Mass Rep(D) Seth Moulton , he’s down 50 points to Markey, who even a Lesser Kennedy could not defeat. He’s no measure of what will happen, only of political expediency and desperation. But your point is well taken-How will the generational divide in the Dem party play out? An accomodation between the Left/Youth wing and the Elders or an internal bloodbath that negatively impacts the races in ’26 and ’28. Based on 50 years of Dem party history it’s reasonable (not insane?) to expect the latter.
Finally, as to January’s political landscape. Please remember that Trump is in charge and is the biggest wild card factor. Next to Ukraine which, thanks to the neocon con men and women , is highly likely to be an even greater conflagration as the EU and Zelensky press for evermore ammo and guns and death to avoid a Russian invasion of Europe( which makes no sense-the West wants Russia’s natural resources, the Russians just want a buffer between them and the neocon West).
This fully predictable Democratic rout on election day was achieved on their home court. If they had lost ANY of the races it would have been astonishing,
But where’s the fun if you can’t bouy your flagging and fragmented party faithful with a bit of (insane?) optimism ?
As always, the historical perspective and current analysis is so valuable and informative, Gabe, thank you.
It’s all about the message. The message is the economy. The group of the Snap recipients losing benefits are part of the left behinds
A week or so ago the Dems were given a chance if they can stay on message. Again the message is the economy
The Dems were never going to get any movement on ACA. But now they can get a lot of play
They can say “we are not giving up on the ACA but people were going hungry. We don’t support that For right now we had to get SNAP started again
That could be the message headed into the mid terms. At a certain point they deemphasise SNAP and start talking about ACA
Instead of attacking the Republicans that can focus on what they’ve done and will do
Now can they do that. Who knows
Trump always wins. TAW
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It started with unwarranted criticism of HCR and now has moved into very perceptible approval for the "political mastermind that is Trump". We all got to watch you grow up and take the bait. It's more than disappointing.
Which of the points I made above do you think is incorrect? Did I get historical analysis of one of the past shutdowns wrong? Or did I incorrectly analyze this one? Would be happy to hear any specific point of disagreement you have!
It's been nearly an hour. He won't.
No, "he" won't.
Did Gabe say “political mastermind that is Trump?” Maybe I missed it. Quotation marks mean an exact and specific quote.
Whelp, guess that was one quote mark too many. The sentiment throughout the piece exists but here's some directness for you. "And we also know that Trump is more politically savvy (and less ideologically stringent) than Thune or Johnson:" Regardless, the adoration oozes.
I suppose those of us who refuse to participate in serious discussion of the man as anything more than a con man who fell into a particular chair in the WH will also sit by idly when political pundits gather round to discuss how genius it was he wrangled his way into a third term. "Who would have thought it possible? Stroke of genius getting around the Constitution! Breaking ground for a new Republic!"
Fair enough, if you disagree with the assertions that Trump is more politically savvy and ideologically flexible than Mike Johnson and John Thune, we can agree to disagree on that. I believe there is ample evidence of Donald Trump changing his political positions and shirking away from conservative orthodoxy in order to win votes, whereas there is less evidence that Johnson or Thune have done either. I don’t believe it’s adoration to say that (if anything, many might say it’s a criticism to say someone flip-flops in search of votes -- though to be clear, I didn’t mean it as either: just my reading of the facts at hand). But I respect if you disagree and believe there is more evidence of Johnson and Thune changing their stances to win over swing voters.
Recognizing political reality ≠ adoration.
But you still haven't said what Gabe got factually wrong. You're just throwing a tantrum.
And he doesn't need you to stand in front of him.
In this case, the quote marks are meant to signify disagreement with the statement. That said, Gabe is right and the Schumer haters are wrong and should be made to have his job just to see how wrong they are when they find out they can't get swing state Democratic Senators to do the bidding of the lefties (because the lefties who hate normal Democrats are the ones pushing this; the actual base Democrats weren't).
I stand corrected. I never heard of “scare quotes.” (Not sure that Jules did either based on his reply.