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Michael Cunningham's avatar

I suspect you will be commenting on this in a future WUTP, but as you point out "the package would add about $2.8 trillion to the federal deficit over the next 10 years." Google says: the [Senate] Byrd Rule prohibits: ... [any bills that] "would increase the deficit beyond the 10-year budget window covered by the reconciliation measure, it's not allowed."

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Michael Cunningham's avatar

I'm just back from vacation so I was behind reading WUTP. I think Gab addressed this in yesterday WUTP: "Historically, senators have bowed to the parliamentarian when deciding what can and can’t go through the reconciliation process; Republicans are flirting with ignoring her advice for what can be included in the Big Beautiful Bill, another unprecedented move."

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Victor Chang's avatar

I imagine the various Medicaid, food stamp, and clean energy provisions prevent it from increasing the deficit.

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Scott F's avatar

The $2.8 trillion deficit increase takes those provisions into account.

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Michael Cunningham's avatar

Victor, I believe Scott F is correct. I think the deficit was projected to be $4T over 10 years, but the spending cuts reduced it to the $2.8T.

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Sharleen Bielman's avatar

The House just voted to steal $500 billion from every working American. The money they are taking from Medicare does not belong to the Federal Government. That money belongs to every worker, it was not a tax. That money belongs to the American people period.

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Julia Morrell's avatar

When and if this goes into effect, every district whose representative voted for it should have billboards that say: if you lost your Medicaid or foodstamps you can thank Representative X. And put his or her face up there.

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Stephen Douglas Scotti's avatar

Some of those requirements are not completely insane, but I do wonder how those work requirements are implemented ? And, that does not seem to address the growing income and wealth gap. It just makes it worse.

- Impose a new requirement that childless adult Medicaid recipients without disabilities work 80 hours a month.

- Pass on some of the cost of food stamps to the states, while also mandating new work requirements for able-bodied recipients without dependents.

How are people who are unable to find work supposed to comply with work requirements ?

- Not finding work is not always considered a valid excuse. If someone applies for jobs but is not hired, they may still be penalized.

- Job training or community service is sometimes allowed as a substitute, but access to such programs is inconsistent, especially in rural or economically depressed areas.

- There’s often insufficient infrastructure to monitor compliance, and paperwork burdens alone can disqualify eligible people.

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Kathy Combs's avatar

Good point and questions Stephen.

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Katharine Hill's avatar

Thanks, Gabe, for giving me this wrap up. I honestly don’t know how Mike Johnson dares set foot in his church. He is the anti-Christ as far as I can see. And I know the Statue of Liberty is weeping.

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Steve Glicken, MD's avatar

I’m ready to puke. Can we get Trumpy Lumpy to stand in front of me when it happens?

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Dolyn Leigh's avatar

The guy who voted present is the biggest lillly livered coward ever. At least PICK A SIDE MAN.

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Elizabeth Schwab's avatar

Thanks, you help me understand better what's going on.

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Kathy Combs's avatar

"House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries, meanwhile, warned that this will be “the day that Republicans lost control of the House of Representatives.”

Well, one can only hope...... How many days are left before the midterm elections??

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NEIL NORBERG's avatar

Nothing much surprising in this bill except this disturbing provision designed to handcuff Federal and Supreme Court from being able to enforce their orders.

“No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65(c), whether issued prior to, on, or subsequent to the date of enactment of this section.”

https://www.justsecurity.org/113529/terrible-idea-contempt-court/

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Barbara Fox's avatar

Maybe Moody will downgrade again.

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Bill Pierce's avatar

Interesting to see that Drumpf has provided a loyalty carveout in the BBB of what will be well over 25 billion for Elon’s hilariously named Golden Dome.

Which other pockets will he be lining? I mean aside from his own.

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Kelly Grey's avatar

🤬

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Carol Vassar's avatar

the 2 and 4% $ reduction for the poorest 10% of Americans vs the 4 then 3 then 2%increase iin $ for the wealthiest 10% sounds bad enough. If you put the actual number of $ rather than the %, the benefit to the wealthiest would be staggering and the absolute difference in $ of the poorest c/w the wealthy would be obscene, depraved and unconscionable.

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Michael Bower's avatar

On budget on elon on military...might there be several billion lurking in efficiency cuts around there somewhere? Possibly such savings might save the poorest from being made more poor.

Where is all the money where the mouth was relative to the "Trump-Peace / Kamala-War" election placards? ...oh, and the cost of that dictator parade!

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AmericanCitizen's avatar

1. Republican Massie - Saying this budget bill will cost US taxpayers $20-$30 TRILLION dollars over the next 10 years and we are paying it to give to ultra rich. Note the Medicaid cuts are coming in Jan 2029 so they can dump the consequences on the next president

https://americancitizen2025.substack.com/p/republican-massie-voted-against-the

2. Here is Democrats BEGGING for there to be 4 republicans with souls not to vote for the budget bill. Just like Sodom and Gamorrah they came up short and could only find 2.

https://substack.com/@demwinsmedia/note/c-119249026?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=5kzz8c

3. Here is what doctors think about this administration

https://substack.com/@sugarrhi/note/c-119134956?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=5kzz8c

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