It’s not the fact that Democrats won these races that is so important. I think that was expected. It’s the margins that are the news. I’m also a bit surprised that the CA redistricting won by such a huge margin. It’s a big win for Gavin, who will be looking for a new job soon.
Gabe, I think you missed a fairly wide discussion that you might have wanted to include about how Mamdami’s victory, clearly bait for the Republicans to call him the face of the Democratic Party, applies much more specifically to New York City and not the country as a whole. Would he have won in other cities-it’s pretty clear he wouldn’t because his whole message and focus was directed at the people of New York and their unique problems. You can’t really compare any other city to New York. So although the Republicans will try to call him the face of the party, it doesn’t really apply! I know you don’t want to be accused of falling for any particular party line.
Ironically, Mamdani assured the immigrants, legal & illegal in NY that he has their back, while also telling the press explicitly that he’s going after the wealth of white New Yorkers - ‘nothing like a unity ticket 😂😂😂
Mamdani has not campaigned on race, other than implying being non-white is equal to white. For instance he is not hoping to tax white billionaires, just billionaires regardless of race
Mamdani explicitly stated he was there for immigrants, legal & illegal - he never mentioned what he would do for native black & white New Yorkers. He didn’t even acknowledge them - only that he will need their wages to fund his programs for immigrants. Mamdani was speaking to his Brownish brethren from Southeast Asia and the Middle East. He’s explicitly racist.
You are incorrect, Mandami mentioned no such thing. His speech was specifically about the working class regardless of race vs the wealthy class. He didn't mention black, white New Yorkers in the same way he didn't mention Latin or SE Asian New Yorkers.
You are clearly misremembering his victory speech. Here is the full text:
I’m confident Republicans in battleground States are prepping ads and mailers with Mamdani’s picture right now. Democrats are going to have to deal in some way with the fact that this guy will represent all Democrats.
You rightfully point out he doesn’t represent anyone but people in NYC. But if 140 Million Americans vote and there are only 100,000 people who get this fact - we’re in for trouble.
"This wouldn’t have been possible without the enormous changes brought about by two men: Bernie Sanders, who shifted the Overton Window to make it possible for a democratic socialist to win high office; and Benjamin Netanyahu, whose tenure as Israeli prime minister has coincided with an enormous swing public opinion swing away from Israel among Democrats in the United States."
1. Agreed about Bernie.
2. You're being kind to Bibi by saying his tenure has "coincided" with the swing in the Democratic party rather than that he "caused" it. Either way, of course, the shift is ideologically unfounded and inherently antisemitic, since it isn't about Bibi or his policies, really. It's just an excuse for the antisemitism that was always festering under the social surface on the left AND right to come into the open.
3. I think the list needs to be three men, adding Trump. No one (domestically in the US) has done more to normalize fringe opinions, conspiracy theories, and extremist rhetoric (all of which demonstrably lead to violence). He's also, of course, made the economy more inequitable. All of these factors, in turn, helped Mamdani get the support he did (besides all the obvious issues with his opponents that you covered).
On the NYC Mayoral race -- with 91% of the votes counted (link below), the vote count is a 50/50 split between Mandani and Cuomo/Sliwa-taken-togehter -- ~35k more votes on Mamdani's side (1.036mil to 1.001mil).
But, if Sliwa had dropped out (and endorsed and campaigned for Cuomo (the "RFKjr dropped out to back Trump" -style gambit)), and if Sliwa was promised, say, a Police Commish partnership with Tisch (RFKjr was promised HHS Sec), then, the "Law & Order" party most likely would have won out...
When its a 50/50 split, Mamdani has NO mandate, no?
Mamdani's election was obviously a mandate. He was the only candidate to win a majority of votes. This in spite of the significant obstacles of his inexperience, his young age, his Muslim faith in a city that became unified against Muslim fundamentalism after 9/11, his avowed democratic socialist philosophies in the largest capitalistic city in the US
The legislative sweeps should make R congressmen pause. Blind loyalty to the Trump agenda isn't saving their down ballot colleagues. That the VA D won in the AG race tells us people are pulling the lever blindly. If national Rs don't make some big changes they'll be out next November.
It’s great that the results are what they are, but both parties need to find strong candidates that aren’t the old guard, bring more women into these races and be prepared for a fight for our republic-in other words unseat Trump.
"The succesfful balot meuasre likely flipping five House seats will likely go a long way towards Democrats coutnering mid-decade redistriirtng efforts by Republicans."
But will it work for California in the end? The population outflow is so great because Gavin Newsom manages the state so badly - that CA is expected to lose 3 to 4 seats in the near future. Disenfranchising his own population is not a good look for Gavin. I’d say it’s craven.
You are parroting incorrect gop talking points. California population increased roughly 6% from 2010 to 2020. California did suffer outroads during pandemic, primarily because of affordability but things are back to normal. California population and inflow increased in 2024. I assume 2025 will show the same
AI: Regarding whether California will lose seats due to recent population loss, forecasts suggest that the state may lose up to five congressional seats in the 2030 apportionment cycle if current trends continue, as the growth rate has slowed or reversed in recent years. Despite some decline in population, the recent redistricting and population shifts primarily influence the distribution of seats rather than their total number until the subsequent census happens in 2030.
More people may be leaving California than are arriving but that’s mostly because it’s relatively expensive to live here, not because they don’t like the politics or that they think the state is poorly run. It isn’t. The net effect has been to export liberalism and to dilute the Republican stranglehold on red states. One of the arguments I have read in support of the Texas redistricting is that it was necessary because of all the new liberal voters who had moved there from California.
What is shocking about Mamdani is that he’s a Muslim when it was just about 20 years ago, 19 Muslims took down the World Trade Center, killing 3,500 New Yorkers. That Democrats voted for Democrats in Blue States is not surprising and indicates nothing going forward.
What is shocking about Mamdani is that he is a man when it was just about 20 years ago that 19 men took down the World Trade Center, killing 3,500 New Yorkers.
The issue isn’t whether Gabe believes it, and clearly he does not, but whether the Republicans can convince enough voters nationwide that Mamdani is the new face of the Democrats
It’s not the fact that Democrats won these races that is so important. I think that was expected. It’s the margins that are the news. I’m also a bit surprised that the CA redistricting won by such a huge margin. It’s a big win for Gavin, who will be looking for a new job soon.
Gabe, I think you missed a fairly wide discussion that you might have wanted to include about how Mamdami’s victory, clearly bait for the Republicans to call him the face of the Democratic Party, applies much more specifically to New York City and not the country as a whole. Would he have won in other cities-it’s pretty clear he wouldn’t because his whole message and focus was directed at the people of New York and their unique problems. You can’t really compare any other city to New York. So although the Republicans will try to call him the face of the party, it doesn’t really apply! I know you don’t want to be accused of falling for any particular party line.
Ironically, Mamdani assured the immigrants, legal & illegal in NY that he has their back, while also telling the press explicitly that he’s going after the wealth of white New Yorkers - ‘nothing like a unity ticket 😂😂😂
Mamdani has not campaigned on race, other than implying being non-white is equal to white. For instance he is not hoping to tax white billionaires, just billionaires regardless of race
You did not listen to his speech last night…
Of course I listened to the entire speech. Quote the lines you are concerned about and prove your point
Mamdani explicitly stated he was there for immigrants, legal & illegal - he never mentioned what he would do for native black & white New Yorkers. He didn’t even acknowledge them - only that he will need their wages to fund his programs for immigrants. Mamdani was speaking to his Brownish brethren from Southeast Asia and the Middle East. He’s explicitly racist.
You are incorrect, Mandami mentioned no such thing. His speech was specifically about the working class regardless of race vs the wealthy class. He didn't mention black, white New Yorkers in the same way he didn't mention Latin or SE Asian New Yorkers.
You are clearly misremembering his victory speech. Here is the full text:
Zohran Mamdani's victory speech in full - Newsweek https://share.google/4DsNbFgBlb7OSRG8Y
I’m confident Republicans in battleground States are prepping ads and mailers with Mamdani’s picture right now. Democrats are going to have to deal in some way with the fact that this guy will represent all Democrats.
You rightfully point out he doesn’t represent anyone but people in NYC. But if 140 Million Americans vote and there are only 100,000 people who get this fact - we’re in for trouble.
In your #5:
"This wouldn’t have been possible without the enormous changes brought about by two men: Bernie Sanders, who shifted the Overton Window to make it possible for a democratic socialist to win high office; and Benjamin Netanyahu, whose tenure as Israeli prime minister has coincided with an enormous swing public opinion swing away from Israel among Democrats in the United States."
1. Agreed about Bernie.
2. You're being kind to Bibi by saying his tenure has "coincided" with the swing in the Democratic party rather than that he "caused" it. Either way, of course, the shift is ideologically unfounded and inherently antisemitic, since it isn't about Bibi or his policies, really. It's just an excuse for the antisemitism that was always festering under the social surface on the left AND right to come into the open.
3. I think the list needs to be three men, adding Trump. No one (domestically in the US) has done more to normalize fringe opinions, conspiracy theories, and extremist rhetoric (all of which demonstrably lead to violence). He's also, of course, made the economy more inequitable. All of these factors, in turn, helped Mamdani get the support he did (besides all the obvious issues with his opponents that you covered).
On the NYC Mayoral race -- with 91% of the votes counted (link below), the vote count is a 50/50 split between Mandani and Cuomo/Sliwa-taken-togehter -- ~35k more votes on Mamdani's side (1.036mil to 1.001mil).
But, if Sliwa had dropped out (and endorsed and campaigned for Cuomo (the "RFKjr dropped out to back Trump" -style gambit)), and if Sliwa was promised, say, a Police Commish partnership with Tisch (RFKjr was promised HHS Sec), then, the "Law & Order" party most likely would have won out...
When its a 50/50 split, Mamdani has NO mandate, no?
https://www.cnn.com/election/2025/results/new-york-city-mayor
Ask Trump and his "mandate"
Mamdani's election was obviously a mandate. He was the only candidate to win a majority of votes. This in spite of the significant obstacles of his inexperience, his young age, his Muslim faith in a city that became unified against Muslim fundamentalism after 9/11, his avowed democratic socialist philosophies in the largest capitalistic city in the US
Mamdani does NOT have a mandate when half the voters don’t want him.
But Trump has a mandate when less than 50% voted for him?? Lol
Who said Trump had a mandate? He never did…
? Trump says he had a mandate. Which is echoed by Fox News and maga lobby
Trump claims a ‘massive’ mandate, but presidents often overread their victories https://www.npr.org/2024/12/16/g-s1-38003/trump-mandate-presidents
Neither does Trump. But go tell him that
Neither does Trump. But go tell him that.
Why should Republicans help Democrats dig out of their own crap? 🤷♀️
The legislative sweeps should make R congressmen pause. Blind loyalty to the Trump agenda isn't saving their down ballot colleagues. That the VA D won in the AG race tells us people are pulling the lever blindly. If national Rs don't make some big changes they'll be out next November.
It’s great that the results are what they are, but both parties need to find strong candidates that aren’t the old guard, bring more women into these races and be prepared for a fight for our republic-in other words unseat Trump.
"The succesfful balot meuasre likely flipping five House seats will likely go a long way towards Democrats coutnering mid-decade redistriirtng efforts by Republicans."
Oops. The spell-checker failed badly here.
But I am still a big fan of Gabe!
But will it work for California in the end? The population outflow is so great because Gavin Newsom manages the state so badly - that CA is expected to lose 3 to 4 seats in the near future. Disenfranchising his own population is not a good look for Gavin. I’d say it’s craven.
You are parroting incorrect gop talking points. California population increased roughly 6% from 2010 to 2020. California did suffer outroads during pandemic, primarily because of affordability but things are back to normal. California population and inflow increased in 2024. I assume 2025 will show the same
AI: Regarding whether California will lose seats due to recent population loss, forecasts suggest that the state may lose up to five congressional seats in the 2030 apportionment cycle if current trends continue, as the growth rate has slowed or reversed in recent years. Despite some decline in population, the recent redistricting and population shifts primarily influence the distribution of seats rather than their total number until the subsequent census happens in 2030.
I guess this is accurate if California population trends during pandemic continued. It did not
More people may be leaving California than are arriving but that’s mostly because it’s relatively expensive to live here, not because they don’t like the politics or that they think the state is poorly run. It isn’t. The net effect has been to export liberalism and to dilute the Republican stranglehold on red states. One of the arguments I have read in support of the Texas redistricting is that it was necessary because of all the new liberal voters who had moved there from California.
Feel like mentioning David Dinkins should be a thing wrt Mamdani. I'm actually surprised at the VA turnout as well.
What is shocking about Mamdani is that he’s a Muslim when it was just about 20 years ago, 19 Muslims took down the World Trade Center, killing 3,500 New Yorkers. That Democrats voted for Democrats in Blue States is not surprising and indicates nothing going forward.
This is “racist” by nature. Directly or indirectly putting the blame on Muslims for 9/11 is nothing less
I said nothing that wasn't factual. You can infer whatever you like.
What is shocking about Mamdani is that he is a man when it was just about 20 years ago that 19 men took down the World Trade Center, killing 3,500 New Yorkers.
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The issue isn’t whether Gabe believes it, and clearly he does not, but whether the Republicans can convince enough voters nationwide that Mamdani is the new face of the Democrats
Obviously this was more a repudiation of trump
Jay Jones winning by a decent size margin and the amount of turnover in the Virginia state house are the biggest indicators of that
https://archive.org/details/TheFranklinCover-upByFormerGreenBeretJohnDecamp/mode/1up